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年轻士兵不应该因为使用抖音而受到指责,责任在于高层领导人
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译文简介:一方面,他说年轻的士兵对新APP更加精通,比领导人更了解它们。另一方面,他说年轻的士兵对这些应用程序了解不够,需要领导者来教育他们。等待? 什么? 先生,不能两全其美。
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原文地址:https://www.businessinsider.com/

Gen. David Berger, the US Marine Corps commandant, said concerns over a service members' use of Chinese-owned apps like TikTok should be directed against the military's leadership, rather than the individual troops.
Speaking at the Reagan National Defense Forum in Simi Valley, California on Saturday morning, Berger said the younger generation of troops had a "clearer view" of the technology "than most people give them credit for."
Foreign-owned apps like TikTok have prompted concern from lawmakers and the military in recent months.
"That's not their fault. That's on us," Berger said. "Once they begin to understand the risks, what the impact to them is tactically … then it becomes clear. I don't blame them for that. This is a training and education that we have to do."

美国海军陆战队司令戴维·伯杰将军表示,对于现役军人使用抖音等中国自主开发的APP的担忧,应该针对军方领导层,而不是个别士兵。
伯杰星期六上午在加州西米谷举行的里根国防论坛上说,年轻一代的军人对这项技术的看法比大多数人认为的要“清楚”。
近几个月来,抖音等外资APP已经引起了立法者和军方的担忧。
伯杰说,“这不是他们的错。这是我们的责任。一旦他们开始了解风险,对他们的战术影响是什么……,那么他们就会有更清晰的认识。我不怪他们。这是我们必须进行的培训和教育。”

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CallMeIndependent
If the app, via the phone, can track their location, then the Chinese will always know where their military unit is located. Think about that for allowing "personal" use of TikTok.

如果这个APP,通过手机,可以跟踪他们的位置,那么中国人将永远知道他们的军队在哪里。考虑一下允许“个人”使用抖音。

George
Regardless of the app being used, almost all wireless devices have an embedded GPS - If nothing else, your mobile device is reporting YOUR location (and internet address) to the manufacturer's database - after that, no one knows (or cares) who is accessing that information. Carrying a mobile device while on the battlefield is a good way to make yourself a target, even if your information is encrypted.

不管使用的是什么APP,几乎所有的无线设备都有一个嵌入式GPS——如果没有其他情况,你的移动设备会向制造商的数据库报告你的位置(和互联网地址)——在那之后,没有人知道(或关心)是谁在访问这些信息。在战场上携带移动设备是让自己成为目标的好方法,即使你的信息被加密了。

richard
TikTok and its owner, Beijing ByteDance Technology, claims that American user data is not stored in China, nor is it politically influenced by the country. this is a lie every company in China is controlled by the Government. look up the story about Smithfield ham a US company that was bought by a Chinese company that was funded by the Chinese Government

抖音及其所有者北京字节跳动技术公司声称,美国用户的数据没有存储在中国,也没有受到中国的政治影响。这是一个谎言,在中国,每个公司都被政府控制。看看史密斯菲尔德火腿的故事吧,这家美国公司被中国政府出资的一家中国公司收购。

Steven dale Copass
NO ONE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS ANYMORE. THAT IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE YOUNG IN THIS COUNTRY.

没有人再为他们的行为负责。这就是这个国家年轻人的问题所在。

A
I bet the app can access the camera and microphone of phones. It’s the perfect spy tool

我打赌这个APP可以访问手机的摄像头和麦克风。这是一个完美的间谍工具。

I eat eel
Hope the Marines don’t allow soldiers to carry their phones with them in the field. 

希望海军陆战队不允许士兵在战场上随身携带手机。

robert
I am sure that China has a way to listen in on conversations thru these apps. 

我相信中国有办法通过这些APP监听对话。

GhettoSamurai
Once you've been told not to use it, just don't. Simple.

一旦你被告知不要使用它,就不要使用它。就是这么简单。

Walter
So on one hand he says younger troops are more tech savvy about new apps and know more about them than leaders. Other hand he says the younger troops don't know enough about the apps and need leaders to educate them. Wait? What? Can't have it both ways sir.

一方面,他说年轻的士兵对新APP更加精通,比领导人更了解它们。另一方面,他说年轻的士兵对这些应用程序了解不够,需要领导者来教育他们。等待? 什么? 先生,不能两全其美。

Go Green
Cold War end long time ago.
Dirty politics should not interrupt normal business , should not bad mouth and demonize , should not discriminate a fine Software and products just because trump is starting a trade war, technology Cold War ,
The hawk in Washington has discriminating products from China such as Hauwei , TikTok without a single prove ..

冷战早已结束。
肮脏的政治不应该干扰正常的商业,不应该恶意中伤和妖魔化,不应该因为特朗普开始贸易战、技术冷战就歧视优秀的软件和产品,
华盛顿的鹰派在没有任何证据的情况下就歧视中国的产品,比如华为、抖音。

Rose
Why would any sane human need to use Tik Tok. People are too hooked on their phone. It has become their drug of choice.

为什么任何神志正常的人都需要使用抖音。人们太沉迷于手机了。它已经成为他们的首选毒品。

Charles
Solution simple. ZERO cell phones on any deployment, training or combat. That way the unit cannot be tracked by potential enemies of the US. Like was done when I went to Nam, every seabag, backpack, and kit was searched for military illegal items at the point of departure from the US. That has to be done even more rigorously these days to ensure that trackable electronics are not going with the individual Marine, soldier, Airman, sailor. Used to be the "walls have ears". Now the "sky has ears".

解决办法很简单。在任何部署、训练或战斗中都不要使用手机。这样的话,美国的潜在敌人就无法追踪这个部队。就像我去越南时那样,在离开美国时,每件海军装备、背包和装备都要被搜查,以寻找非法军事物品。这些天必须更加严格地做到这一点,以确保海军、士兵、飞行员、水手没有随身携带可跟踪的电子设备。过去被称为“隔墙有耳”。现在是“隔空有耳”。

Less Mor
What ever happened to "orders?" It used to be that if you were in the military and you were ordered NOT to do something -- and then you did do something -- YOU were held responsible for YOUR actions! This is why there is no discipline among the ranks of the military today.

“命令”到底出什么问题? 过去的情况是,如果你在军队里,你被命令不要做某事——然后你做了某事——你要为你的行为负责! 这就是为什么今天的军队没有纪律的原因。

Michael
What do you think the drone company DJI based in Communist China does with all video collected and sent to their servers from drones sold to Europe and US. Cant tell me they aren’t collecting it for potential sinister means.

你认为总部位于中国的无人机公司大疆会如何处理从销往欧洲和美国的无人机上收集并发送到服务器上的所有视频呢? 别告诉我,他们收集它不是为了潜在的邪恶手段。

John
I can't remember which tech giant said it (Google, maybe?) but all hi-tech communcations equipment is subject to compromise by people with nefarious intent. What was being pointed out was that you're just a likely to be targeted by the NSA as by the CCP, and it doesn't reaally matter if your smartphone is a Nokia or a Huawei, either is vulnerable. I wish I could remember which tech giant said it, but it was an authoritative voice speaking to be sure.

我不记得是哪个科技巨头这么说的了(也许是谷歌?),但是所有的高科技通讯设备都有可能被怀有恶意的人破坏。需要指出的是,你很有可能成为美国国家安全局和中国的目标,你的智能手机是诺基亚还是华为都很容易受到攻击。我希望我能记得是哪个科技巨头说的,但可以肯定的是,这是一个权威的声音。

Saighdiúir
The LAST thing we need is the Chinese having an app on our service members phones so that they can track locations and movements of our military.

我们最不需要的就是中国人在我们的军人手机上安装一个APP,这样他们就可以追踪我们军队的位置和行动。

Rebelsoul
Good leadership knows the responsibility is with leadership. Any failure is a leadership problem, even in the civilian world though most won't admit it. Easier to blame others.

好的领导知道责任在于领导。任何失败都是领导力的问题,即使是在平民世界,尽管大多数人不愿承认。更容易责怪别人。

Weldon
Even if US service members do not use social media, their friends and family may have already mentioned them and their activities in their social media posts and compromised operational security.
The Chinese intelligence officers scour the internet for any open source intelligence.

即使美国军人不使用社交媒体,他们的朋友和家人可能已经在他们的社交媒体帖子中提到了他们和他们的活动,并危及了行动安全。
中国情报官员在互联网上搜寻任何开源情报。

Tony
Marines should be held to a higher standard regardless. Social media will eventually be realized for what it is a mass mental health issue.

不管怎样,海军陆战队都应该有更高的标准。社交媒体最终会成为一个大众心理健康问题。

Eugene
Of course the SILENCE from the Commanding Generals of the ARMY, AIR FORCE, NAVY and COAST GUARD is DEFEANING.....guess it's OK with them that the Chinese Communists are hearing and watching us 24 hours per day!

当然,陆军、空军、海军和海岸警卫队指挥官的沉默正在被打破…… 我想他们不会介意中国一天24小时都在听我们说话和看着我们!

Michael
It would make sense for ALL U.S troops to be banned from using TicTok being the Chinese government is using it to spy on U.S citizens. This is a known fact.

所有美国军队被禁止使用抖音是有道理的,因为中国政府正在用它来监视美国公民。这是众所周知的事实。

Ed
No military personal should be ALLOWED to use a foreign countries apps PERIOD ! 

任何军人个人都不应该被允许使用国外的APP! 

I
US troops and government employees, officials and contractors should not use or have TikTok app downloaded unto any personal or government issued devices, for imagine how easily a foreign government with access and control to individual's data can blackmail that individual(s) to do its bidding.

美国军队、政府雇员、官员和承包商不应使用或将抖音应用下载到任何个人或政府发布的设备上,因为想象一下,一个能够访问和控制个人数据的外国政府可以多么容易地敲诈个人,让他们按自己的要求行事。

Gray
The US spies too. Maybe discuss Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Google. No different. You're going to be spied on wherever you go and whatever you do. Accept it.

美国也有间谍。可以讨论Facebook、Twitter、 Instagram、谷歌。没有什么不同。无论你走到哪里,无论你做什么,你都会被监视。请接受这个事实。

Jeremy
It's up to the Leadership to inform troop of any possible Security Precautions that they need to take, including possible dangerous apps from foreign governments.

领导层有责任通知部队他们需要采取的任何可能的安全预防措施,包括可能来自外国政府的危险APP。

Henry
Remembering back to 1970 as a Marine Company Commander at Camp Lejeune. The Corps was drawing down personnel because we started pulling Marines out of Vietnam. There were a lot of Marines using drugs. We were told as company grade officers, that it was our duty and responsibility to cure them and get them clean. This was a thankless job. We had no experience with drug prevention or how to cure addiction. They had trained us to fight and that was it. We were stuck because our fitness reports directly reflected how many drugged out Marines we saved.
One day, on a bus taking Marines from the base to their homes, a drugged out Marine stood up and shot another Marine in the head for no apparent reason, killing him. The dead Marines parents went nuts, asking why a druggy was allowed to be on the loose at the base. They called their Senator and asked him the same question.
Within 3 days of the Marines death, orders came down from division to process out all drug impaired Marines ASAP! 

回想起1970年在勒琼营担任海军陆战队连长时的情景。因为我们开始把海军陆战队撤出越南,所以部队正在削减人员。有很多海军陆战队员吸毒。作为连级军官,我们被告知,我们的责任和义务是治疗他们,让他们戒毒。这是一个吃力不讨好的工作。我们没有预防吸毒或治疗毒瘾的经验。他们训练我们去战斗,仅此而已。我们被难倒了,因为我们的健康报告直接反映了我们救了多少吸毒的海军陆战队员。
有一天,在一辆载着海军陆战队员从基地回家的大巴上,一名吸毒的海军陆战队员站了起来,莫名其妙地朝另一名海军陆战队员的头部开了一枪,杀死了他。死去的海军陆战队士兵的父母都气疯了,质问为什么一个吸毒者被允许在基地里逍遥法外。他们打电话给参议员,问了他同样的问题。
在海军陆战队员死亡后的3天内,各部门下达命令,要尽快处理所有受毒品影响的海军陆战队员! 

Hey you
Care and caution is needed by the users of the internet. Continuing to provide too much harmful information could lead to some countries disconnecting the internet from the outside world. Lots of sensitive data is included in the backgrounds of some selfies. Just because it is meaningless to you doesn't mean others might not be watching.

互联网用户需要小心谨慎。继续提供太多有害信息可能会导致一些国家切断互联网与外部世界的联系。一些自拍的背景中包含了大量的敏感数据。仅仅因为它对你来说毫无意义并不意味着其他人可能不会关注。

tony
I don't understand why the General should blame the senior leaders. This should be a military rule overall that should ban all troops and senior leaders from using all apps, especially foreign ones. The military should have their own apps for the soldiers to use and by which the leaders could also communicate with the soldiers. Is the military losing control over its soldiers?

我不明白将军为什么要责备高级领导人。这应该是一个全面的军事规则,应该禁止所有军队和高级领导人使用所有的APP,特别是外国的。军队应该有自己的APP供士兵使用,领导人也可以通过这些APP与士兵交流。军队正在失去对士兵的控制吗?

Michael
He's right, educate the troops on the issues so that they understand the risks to security.

他是对的,在这些问题上教育军队,让他们了解安全风险。

Eskymo
The very presence of ANY unsecured "smart" phone in a military environment is a potential threat to nation [considering cameras, malware, spyware, etc ]. If the UCMJ can replace civil law for military law within service, it can certainly either prohibit or control the use of unsecured phones...

在军事环境中任何不安全的“智能”手机都对国家造成潜在的威胁(考虑到摄像头、恶意软件、间谍软件等)。如果在服役期间,军事审判统一法典可以用军事法取代民法,它当然可以禁止或控制不安全手机的使用……

Dan
It's simple. Just make a list of approved and disapproved apps. And everything goes on the disapproved list until approved. If a soldier can't follow that simple rule, they don't belong in the military.

这很简单。只需要列出批准和不批准的APP。所有的事情都列在不被批准的清单上,直到被批准为止。如果一个士兵不能遵守这个简单的规则,他们就不应该归入军队。

John
We are entering a period of anti-China scare hysteria that is very reminiscent of the great post-WWII red scare of McCarthyism. Unscrupulous politicians are whipping the nation up into a frenzy for political purposes as they warn of Chinese threats in every closet and under every bed. Unfortunately, it's pretty effective because of the provincial thinking of many Americans and the virtual death of critical thinking skills caused by internet overuse.

我们正在进入一个歇斯底里的反华恐慌时期,这很容易让人想起二战后麦卡锡主义的红色恐怖。肆无忌惮的政客们为了政治目的,无处不在警告中国的威胁,这让整个国家陷入疯狂。不幸的是,这非常有效,因为许多美国人思维狭隘,而过度使用互联网导致批判性思维技能实际上死亡。
 
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